Fred Gleeck's Info Products Seminar, March 14-15, 2009

Fred's house in sunny and warm Las Vegas

I'm John Soares, one of the participants at the workshop. My current information product is: Writing College Textbook Supplements: The Definitive Guide to Winning High-Paying Assignments in the College Textbook Publishing Market.
www.WritingCollegeTextbookSupplements.com

About These Notes

I took these on my laptop throughout the two-day seminar. They were intended for my own use and are not comprehensive. For example, I didn't write down many of the things I already know. However, there is a lot of good information here, including many of the web addresses Fred discusses.

I am a professional writer. However, what you get here are the notes I made for myself, so they do not follow the rules of grammar and punctuation.

The Handouts

Three handouts guided the information presented:

  1. How ANYONE Can Build an Info Product “Empire” in 7 SIMPLE Steps (you can get this one by going to: www.TheProductGuru.com)
  2. Random (But IMPORTANT) Thoughts About Internet/Information Marketing - www.fredgleeck.com/cheatsheet
  3. Fred Gleeck's Funnel System (also available at the same site as the first item)


Mailing lists and databases--buying/getting email addresses:
mailings.com
MDR.com

Recommended Books:
Talent is Overrated - Colvin
Outliers - Gladwell
Happier – Tal Ben Shahar

164K people on Fred’s list

10,000 hours for world-class proficiency, assuming proper training and practice

  1. Deciding on a Niche.

  2. Bird feeders: keep squirrels away--$7 e-book sold 35,000 copies

    Use Google adwords:
    https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
    Research niches by doing keyword searches to see number of clicks
    Look at sites selling similar products

    Do competitive analysis:
    sites from handout 1
    get traffic numbers of my competitors
    also use www.alexa.com

    Produce both timeless and time-bounded products
    Can address short-term fads, but also need the have-around-forever products

    Funnel:
    appeal to all modalities of learning
    Must decide what type of product will serve my market
    sell other's products as an affiliate if:
    (1) the products are good
    (2) I don't (yet) have similar products

    www.WebMarketingMagic.com -- private license; many others use it under different names

    www.InfoSocia.com - create own private Facebook; people pay $39 per month; like a paid version of NING but more complex and not free

    Business caulking--find gaps in business models and create products to “caulk” the gaps = find a niche.

    www.FredGleeck.com/kevin/
    free mp3 from older conference

    Screen capture video can be good in a product if appropriate for my market.

    Paypal account: have misspellings of my name.

    Funnel:
    give something for free--they know I’m good and knowledgeable
    sell inexpensive and trade up
    Fred’s top: seven-day intensive info product creation and then JV with students


  3. Write the Copy for Your Product.

  4. Bob Bly: Copywriter’s Handbook new edition--dedicated to Fred
    Jeffrey Lant: cash copy
    www.SuperFastTweak.com $497 Sabrina Brick

    Don’t try and do it yourself. If you do, have someone TWEAK it for you

    Very few people actually test copy:
    use google analytics
    test: headline, price, salutation, bonuses, opening paragraph, P.S., offer itself
    test at least a couple of prices, a couple of headlines
    Analytics does Teguchi multi-variant testing: will tell me which headline, which price, which bonus optimizes sales if I have three headlines, three prices, three bonuses
    can increase sales 3x-4x

    www.BipolarCentral.com
    Fred’s “student”: does very well with this site

    www.CompleteInternetMarketing.com
    Fred and Terry Dean
    Mr. D is creator of www.bipolarcentral.com

    Google alerts: check my own name to see where and how I’m appearing in the news and on websites.

    www.FredSentMe.com
    Fred’s affiliate stuff

    www.CompleteInternetMarketing.com
    Fred’s latest info product -$97

    www.fredseminarspecial.com

    Licensing:
    resale license
    other types of licenses

    E-mail to list:
    80% good content
    20% sales

    Won’t make as much money by doing things honestly and ethically; the others will have an advantage

    Need to find other producers of information; I can introduce my list to them as an affiliate. Find people I think are ethical and good.


  5. Create the Product.

  6. Sound recording: small room with carpet and comforters on the wall.

    Recording:
    Marantz PMD 660; records onto flash card; can record MP3 and other formats; MP3 is fine for voices; 128 Kbps is good quality; costs $500;
    Fred uses iTunes to create the actual file once he pulls it out of the Marantz;
    Garage band software--can’t go longer than 33 minutes
    B and H photo www.bhphoto.com Kendall Scott--audio guy--say Fred sent me

    I can also record directly to my hard drive; don’t need a Marantz

    Must have a very good microphone; don’t want too good; it will pick up everything.
    Sound Soap: a product that allows me to eliminate a certain frequency range.

    Shure 58A is a good mike: around $100
    XLR cabling--inexpensive
    mike stand from Radio Shack
    www.ExpertInterviewer.com -- how to interview properly

    Ways to do it:
    1. sitting in a studio (worst)
    2. live event
    3. interview

    teleseminar
    www.freeconferencecall.com - decent audio quality

    “That-2” separates voice of me and person calling in--I can do a volume adjustment--make it louder; JK audio www.jkaudio.com

    Skype: call around world for free; plug-in to record calls; but unreliable right now; sometimes drops the call


    After lunch

    People need differing levels of help.
    1. Some will take a basic product and run with it.
    Others need more help.
    2. Group coaching--seminar.
    3. Individual coaching.
    www.ConsultwithFred.com send him $500; get 90-minute consult
    Best when they come to me; when I come to them I’m on the weak side of the power equation.
    Use Fred’s www.LunchwithFred.com and www.ConsultwithFred.com sites and copy the site
    If I find a site I like: “view source” and take code, plug into browser

    Coaching: to get started, do it for free; but say what it’s worth and ask for testimonials


    Sam Visnic:
    came to boot camp
    he’s blogging--had success (Yaro Starak materials)
    optimized his blog entries around long-tail keywords that he found through Google
    He gets 100 hits a day
    www.endyourbackpain.com/blog
    posts videos to Youtube; also has Facebook site for his videos
    want links/bookmarks back to my site for SEO; so put those links on Web 2.0 social sites
    Youtube clips really made the difference for him
    He’s one of Fred’s JV/revenue-share clients
    His joint ventures with other information product creators: he gets 10% of income; they send check every month; he’s an equity partner
    Video:
    Want video only when it’s truly useful
    David Frees - video releases - dfrees (at) utbf (dot) com
    Always have an extensive outline and a storyboard--what it will look like

    Flip video:
    - video quality is good
    - audio quality inadequate
    - good for video testimonials

    Must know how to light properly
    Get a good tripod with a floating head--allows you to move up or down--costs $300

    If turning into a DVD we need higher quality
    High Def not needed for web information products
    Need a decent camera: $500 digital should be fine
    BH recommends a Canon; may be at Costco
    Canon $279 at Costco; must have external mike--check to see if it does
    Google search: brand and model number and review--check reviews (www.ConsumerReports.org--$20 per year)
    First time do it with someone who knows what to do
    Local cable TV or community college to do it cheaply

    If video is too slick and professional, people may not trust you

    megalynx 7 duplicators for CDs and DVDs--see on ebay

    Eventually people will buy video digitally, download it, and burn a their own DVD--will take 18 months before this happens = late 2010

    audio already there--people will download mp3 and burn to CD or listen on mp3 player

    www.CDROM2Go.com will create prepackaged thumb drives with content; put my logo on them; can be sampler I can give to people, or sell

    Want all video to be in flash format--will work on all computers

    Camera must have external jack for microphone
    Want to use wired mikes, not wireless; XLR connector best; mini OK, but diminishes quality

    David Hamilton the Web Marketing Magician works with Fred; knows about doing technical stuff on Web, including shopping carts – www.WebMarketingMagician.com

    www.kunaki.com produces and mails CDs and DVDs

    http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AmazonS3/2006-03-01/ - stores large videos for download to customers


    Some Internet marketing people try to wow with numbers; best to be understated--Bly makes 300,000+ per year


    Testimonials:
    more specific the better:
    detailed info on what they gained
    full name, town and state, website, and e-mail
    Video testimonials are best
    need not get releases
    but tell what it’s for and get permission in front of witnesses


    Sell my items on ebay
    If someone copies my stuff and tries to sell it, send a cease-and-desist order


    Fred’s info boot camp--$3K, will eventually be far more
    current price matches current demand
    Fred’s new book, out in 2010: Sell Your Brainpower


    Seminars
    See his book on information marketing
    When he speaks at a conference for 1-3 hours, he condenses all this stuff
    Use his websites as templates for my sites

    Web Marketing Magic makes 5 figures per month
    www.UltraCheapDomains.com makes $1000-1500 per month

    Think about software I can get involved in that will continue to make money


    Membership sites
    www.InfoProductCentral.com
    Does good numbers: venture with Fred and Bob Bly


    www.TheSpeakingSchool.com - improv-based speaking seminar taught by Fred; $5K for one week www.WhereIMakeMyMoney.com - breakdown of Fred’s income


    Day Two

    Seminar:
    do product pitch about 50%-plus into the seminar
    one-day: just before lunch break
    two day: just before lunch on second day
    two price options: lower-priced option and a higher; adjust the prices as needed


  7. Put up a Website.

  8. Website stats that are important:
    1. # unique visitors
    2. conversion rate for sales
    - 100 visitors; $100 product
    - 3% conversion if three people buy
    3. e-mail capture rate
    4. average visitor value: amount made per average per customer

    Data that any joint-venture/affiliate partner will want
    send my Google analytics data as screen capture

    one brochure site and then a separate domain for each product
    more sites means better SEO (search engine optimization)
    may also have separate site for a products I’m an affiliate for

    PPC: don’t pay more for PPC than I make in the long run in sales--at least break even

    PPC--Fred isn’t getting good results anymore; still useful for testing

    Web Marketing Magic shopping cart:
    - ezines
    - ad trackers
    - shopping cart
    - credit card processing--get Dave Hamilton to integrate for you--the merchant account
    - autoresponders
    - only need Web Marketing Magic and merchant account

    Get misspellings of my domain names, especially if I become famous.

    3% is a great closing ratio.
    Closing rate depends on price of product and other factors.
    Pop-up for people who are leaving: The Seven Most Important ... for free so I get them on my list

    www.TrythisDomain.com to find good domains that have just expired

    Affiliate commissions may only be 10% for some industries/activities; a $10,000 program may only pay 10%; they’ll always give less than their marketing cost of acquisition of a customer. Ask what they pay their sales people--what commission to get one person to sign up.

    I can be an affiliate for Web Marketing Magic:
    split is 50% to owner of software; 30% for me; 20% for Fred


    www.ItsJustaParody.com
    www.BillionsInMinutes.com


  9. Drive Traffic to the Site.

  10. Can also do offline to drive traffic

    Paid:
    Primary: Google adwords PPC
    Set up now with $25
    http://adwords.google.com/
    Be careful to set a daily limit
    lots of tools and tutorials
    Want to be in positions 4-7, not first three; people will be click-happy for the first 3 [??]
    Google and Yahoo adtools will tell me who is paying for which terms and how much they pay
    My bid order determines my order on the right side of Google
    Algorithm: the better my ad, the lower my cost
    Adwords for Dummies is a good book

    Use PPC to determine interest in topic:
    click-through rate on Google page
    percentage that give me question about topic in exchange for free e-book on the topic

    www.PayPerClickSearchEngines.com
    many of these engines are cheaper per click than Google

    Alexa
    Spyfu
    both let me know how much traffic my competitors get
    www.CoolSpyTool.com

    Offline traffic:
    advertise in niche magazines
    Only do niche markets: what my target audience reads religiously
    Start with a classified ad to see if magazine works
    Can also send a postcard to people with website address


    www.SellYourBrainPower.com - Fred’s new book; out later this year

    John Kremer, friend of Fred, 1001 Ways to Market Your Book


    Driving traffic to site with unpaid offline

    PR is best
    www.FindingLoveOnlineBook.com a free book
    give away to make money as affiliates to online dating services
    next Valentine’s: big push to get people to site; find love of your live for free
    press will pick up on it

    Dummies Guide to Press Releases: good book

    Distributing press releases
    distribute press releases online in Google
    see list of sites
    www.PRWeb.com

    Blogs: best way to get people to site without paying for it.
    actually a subset of SEO
    organic search results: search results that aren’t paid for
    do google search for important keywords in my niche
    do blog posts with these keywords
    www.WordPress.org
    buy theme if necessary

    SEO: want my site to be converting well before do SEO; don’t want to lose customers

    Get misspellings of my domains, or other domains that I want to do affiliate sales for.

    www.SpeakingforMillions.com
    See for pop-up language


    Afternoon

    www.FredGleeck.com/ezine goes back to August 2004
    Fred’s blog is very focused on business of info marketing
    Fred’s ezine--Insights: 6-8 times per month; contains a mix of business with personal information; often controversial; means he gets read more

    Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday best days for email and ezines

    Fred and Bob have done 45 audio programs; they own jointly; each can do what they want with the programs

    Copyrights: with no written agreement, the person who actually does the videoing or audio taping owns the copyright; if I hire someone, make sure we have a work-for-hire agreement

    ezine: pure text
    Fred’s moving toward blogging more

    www.FredGleeck.com/cheatsheet = random thoughts page


  11. Convert the Visitors to Buyers/Opt-ins.

  12. Need tracking mechanisms = Google analytics
    test as discussed above;
    also test audio on site;
    Fred doesn’t like auto launch; make it user option to turn on and off
    In general, people getting better results with video on the site but sometimes it hurts; test it
    shouldn’t be longer than 2.5 minutes
    tell them what I’m going to tell them; tell them; then tell them what I told them
    Test headline, price, bonuses, PS, salutation, first paragraph, audio or not, video or not
    Terry Dean picture with dog pulls very well

    Usually have just one shot to sell or opt-in

    Freebie for opt-in: Seven Things Information Marketers Must Do During The Recession, for example
    When ask for opt-in, give good reasons why they should subscribe

    e-mails: test titles for response rates


    Infosocia.com will be Fred’s business social site; Facebook for social/personal
    www.InfoSocia.com - George Tran infosocia/1shoppingcart creator--his personal site

    Evan Williams Twitter founder on CharlieRose.com

    Twitter: an ethical way to get somebody’s contact information; I can click on someone’s followers and get their name, then follow up to get their contact info

    Fred has 125 Twitter followers, an exclusive list; he doesn’t go for 20,000

    Fred packs and mails his products himself for SOME things
    Philippines and India have best English speakers for virtual assistants
    Ask on Facebook or Twitter for VA recommendations
    Craigslist is an option for finding help
    www.Craigslistsuccess.com --site Fred is putting together a how to advertise more effectively on Craigslist. 20 pages for $7. Not yet up.
    Do 50 such products at $100 per month = $5000 per month
    Fred looks for small money every month rather than occasional big paydays; also good for tax purposes

    After click “order,” need to keep selling so they follow through


  13. Sell them More and More of your Products.

  14. Jim Caldwell $1 billion in infomercial sales; Fred’s ex-partner

    In 2004 Fred called all his customers personally (by phone) after they ordered

    Best time to sell more is when they are already ordering; they already have the credit card out
    Just be “positive, upbeat, and charming”; don’t be pushy

    Must deliver the product as quickly as possible
    Make at least part of the product downloadable, preferably all downloadable
    Faster I deliver, the more likely they will order again
    Product must be easy to use and understand
    I want my buyer to think the product is worth far more than what they paid
    Problem client: block them in my shopping cart so they can’t buy more

    Better 50 products with modest monthly sales than needing to hit the occasional home run

    Fine to sell as an affiliate; find good product and build good site with good domain; drive traffic to my site

    www.SpeakerFulfillmentServices.com
    Fred’s rolodex: www.TheProductGuru.com

    $77 product download; $127 for CD sent; charge much more for CDs because they take time and money to send

    Most people are either dreamers or doers; rarely are they both